Saturday, January 05, 2008


Science, Evolution, and Creationism

The National Academy of Sciences has issued a report that documents the methods of science and the overwhelming evidence in support of the theory of evolution. It also presents the arguments against the teaching of creationism and Intelligent Design in public-school science classes. However, it also clearly outlines the reasons that a belief in evolution is not incompatible with a belief in God or with other religious beliefs.

It is available for download (PDF) from

I personally find it repugnant that some religious fundamentalists are trying to erode this country's science-education programs. They have convinced a large number of people that there is a large body of scientific evidence against evolution and that there is a debate in the scientific community about its validity. They use fallacious arguments to present Intelligent Design as a logical "scientifically based" alternative. They say that "good Christians" need to support inclusion of these teachings in our kids' science classes. They want us to embrace ignorance.

Those people are dishonest and evil. The information in this book can help us fight them.

Those people are dishonest and evil.

I understand where you're coming from, but do you really think these people are dishonest? I have this feeling that their worldview is completely different from mine. They just don't understand science, and they honestly think that creationism is correct.

What would they have to gain by claiming that creationism is correct and trying to force it into schools, if they inwardly believe it is incorrect? Wouldn't that be next to insane? Perhaps a bizarre plot to try to submerge the public in ignorance?

My feeling is that these people are attempting to spread the ideas which they genuinely believe to be true. Even more important (to them) - they are on a mission to save all of our souls, since we've been led astray by evil secularists.

Anyway, they shouldn't be allowed to spread their ideas on my dime, because what they preach is not science. I agree with you there.
They are dishonest when they say that evolution is still in doubt within the scientific community. They are dishonest when they claim to understand and respect science. They are dishonest when they claim they are not preaching religious beliefs.

I'm sure some of the people spreading the lies believe them to be true, but the creationist movement as a whole is dishonest, both intellectually and morally.

Tolerance of opposing views is laudable, but trying to inject anti-scientific principles into our kids' science classes is not an act of good faith.
you grouping creationists into a whole. If you were to take all religions from around the world that beleive in some sort of creation they would GREATLY out number those who are science based, not to mention the beleif of such things for thousands of years in other not currently practiced religions in ancient times etc.

You are expecting this thought process to be overturned over night from what science has proved in the last few decades (and I mean PROVED). it's hard to expect change so fast, not just here but world wide.

With that said they also teach all other religions, beleifs, etc. in many other courses. Social studies, we read about it in english class, and study it in our foreighn language classes, with this trend the question would be why not also expose all options in science class? Many would argue b/c it's not science, but you have to remember you are of the great minority when making this argument, and your fight will be very tough. You may be able to overcome the christians in this country, but they aren't the only ones backing this thought process.

Hell, I DREADED studying mythology in my latin class, we spent more time on that then learning the language I felt. With this thought process of fullly exposing you to all options in class we have to expect the science class to follow these guidlines.
I am not grouping all creationists together. I only criticize those who misrepresent their beliefs as "science," or who want to take science out of public schools.

The validity of scientific claims is not based upon whether the proponents are in the minority or the majority.
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